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  • If a human (Kehrseite) and a Wesen have a baby, it'll be half-wesen right? But according to the Wesen page, a Kehrseite-Genträger and a Human will NOT create a wesen baby. However, Naiads. Naiads MUST mate with humans to continue the species; that makes all Naiads half-wesen. Which means, their kids aren't supposed to be wesen. So do the Naiads basically have a very dominant chromosome or something? Or is the reason why all children of Naiad women are Naiads is because they conceive in the water? As much as i love the Naiads, their reproduction process is really confusing.

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    • A child of a human and wesen doesn't make a half wesen, it means there is a 50% chance of the child being wesen and 50% chance of being human, but only if the human was a Kehrseite-Gentrager. If the Human was unaware of wesen, the chanceof birthing a wesen is zero. One would have to assume that because the female naiads are always the wesen half of the relationship, there must be some species unique gene that significantly ups the odds of producing a wesen child. What interests me most about the whole birds and bees thing is that it effectively destroys the Renard/Half-Hexenbeist theory, so he must be a full Zauberbiest,making the novelisation canon.

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    • Maybe Kehrseite-Genträger are the proper name for Half-Wesen?

      -Mr, A

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    • No, the show established they are humans thatare aware of the wesen world. They have n wesen blood in them.

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    • 83.252.22.120 wrote:
      Maybe Kehrseite-Genträger are the proper name for Half-Wesen?

      -Mr, A

      No, These are humans with the Wesen gene as a recessive gene.

      Prof. Draco wrote:
      No, the show established they are humans thatare aware of the wesen world. They have n wesen blood in them.

      Humans aware of the Wesen world are known as Kehrseite-Schlich-Kennen, and do not have to have Wesen blood in their systems.


      As for Naiads it is likely that the Naiad Wesen gene is dominant over the human gene, in the same way that some Wesen genes are dominant over other Wesen genes.

      For the hexenbiest it could be that the gene operates in the same way as sickle cell trait and sickle cell disease. In this case a single allele gives some symptons, but both alleles are needed for the full blown disease.

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      • Shrugs* I flunked Bio, listen to that guy I guess.
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    • It's most likely that Kehrseite-Gentrager are Half-Wesen, like Sean. I rationalize Naiads as all being Half-Wesen, all of them being descended from an ancestor species that for whatever reason decided to make males sterile. Weird evolution like that happens sometimes. For example, male anglerfish are up to a thousand times smaller than the female, and they mate by the male fusing into the female to the point where they share blood vessels and the male lives off of her circulatory system, as he is fertilizing her eggs.

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    • Grimm King wrote:
      It's most likely that Kehrseite-Gentrager are Half-Wesen, like Sean. I rationalize Naiads as all being Half-Wesen, all of them being descended from an ancestor species that for whatever reason decided to make males sterile. Weird evolution like that happens sometimes. For example, male anglerfish are up to a thousand times smaller than the female, and they mate by the male fusing into the female to the point where they share blood vessels and the male lives off of her circulatory system, as he is fertilizing her eggs.


      Which means that the hexenbiest gene is dominant over the human gene. The Naiad gene is probably sex releated as that is the one that is always transmitted by the mother, wheras other Wesen genes could be on other chormosones so the line of succession can end after one generation.

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    • I'm so glad this thread was made because is something that is buging me since the begining of the show, and "stories we tell our young" only confuse me more... the issue with thinking the wesen as a gene is that in "Big feet" is told that wesen poses two sets of DNA; one human and one "bestial" if you like, so...that make everything more complicated

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    • RedDyr wrote:
      If a human (Kehrseite) and a Wesen have a baby, it'll be half-wesen right? But according to the Wesen page, a Kehrseite-Genträger and a Human will NOT create a wesen baby. However, Naiads. Naiads MUST mate with humans to continue the species; that makes all Naiads half-wesen. Which means, their kids aren't supposed to be wesen. So do the Naiads basically have a very dominant chromosome or something? Or is the reason why all children of Naiad women are Naiads is because they conceive in the water? As much as i love the Naiads, their reproduction process is really confusing.


      I think it must be a dominant gene.

      The Grimm gene is also a dominant gene.

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    • I'm not sure about the Grimm gene being dominant, since Nick has only been a Grimm for 3 years, the Grimm gene must be one that requires an external trigger to activate, like some genes cause obesity, but the obesity only occurs when sufficient surplus food is eaten.

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    • I don't think is dominant neither, because if it was it should be more Grimms out there...also it seems been associated with the chromosome X since female Grimm show their abilities earlier in their lifes and in a more consistant way, also, Nick inherited it from his mother.

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    • The writers of this show are obviously fantastic at telling stories and creating some really interesting characters (they also wrote Juliette.)

      But this whole "consistency with the little details" thing is nothing they are particularly good at. Which leaves room for us to noodle around forever trying to figure out exactly what a "half-Wesen" is.

      Long live Grimm.  It's only going to get more tangled up the longer it goes on.

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    • I think that a dying Grimm must put out some sort of hormone that causes potential grimm to start developing their powers.

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    • 72.168.96.60 wrote:
      I think that a dying Grimm must put out some sort of hormone that causes potential grimm to start developing their powers.

      I think that another requirement is a certain sized Wesen population and/or a threshold number of Wesen wogeing in their presence.

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