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  • I already posted this as a blog but I thought people are more likely to read it if it's a disscussion.

    So anyway.


    Has anyone else noticed that they hardly ever base episodes on fairytales anymore?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. It's just a bit strange that the whole point of Grimm was that the episodes where all twisted version of classic fairytales, myths, legends and the like, Which is why they have quotes at the beginning. And the Wesen were all based on such as well

    However from season 4 onwards ( and half of season 3) it just seems to be a case "write what you want and find a good quote that matches, even if it's just something a famous said once". A good example would be the Season 4 episode "Thanks for the Memories" which literaly had "Knowledge is Power" as it's quote, That and the Gedachtnis Esser didn't seem to make any reference to past Myths, legends or folklore.

    Again. I'm not complaining. It just seems strange to me that no one else seems to have noticed.

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    • I noticed that too. It's kinda disappointing that we didn't get to see an episode based on "The Gingerbread Man" or "Beauty and the Beast" but I guess theres not alot that can be done about it now that Grimm is close to ending.

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    • 90.198.6.143 wrote:
      I noticed that too. It's kinda disappointing that we didn't get to see an episode based on "The Gingerbread Man" or "Beauty and the Beast" but I guess theres not alot that can be done about it now that Grimm is close to ending.

      Thank You for the reply. I too was also hoping for a Gingerbread Man episode, but it never came. But it has been a good show non the less.

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    • Why won't anyone else reply? Is it because your not intrested? Or your put off by my Steven Universe username and picture?

      Please someone else be intrested!

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    • So if Grimm can't do any episode based on fairy tales and legends, maybe other Grimm-like tv shows make more episodes based on legends and fairy tales.

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    • Yes, we are put off by your mentally insaen sjw propoganda tv series name and profile picture, even though it is comendably for being its own series instead of a sjw corruption of something which they didn't concieve in their ill brains. 

      But that is not the reason nobody is commeting on the topic is just not interesting enough with all that happened througout the series and in the ending. I for one am glad that the deviated from the fairy tales and myths and did their own original thing in stead. 

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    • well, i guess the aim was just to keep its dark and fantastical type of story-telling... whether or not that entailed the fairy tales or just some dark myth or legend

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    • OnePieceNation wrote:
      Yes, we are put off by your mentally insaen sjw propoganda tv series name and profile picture, even though it is comendably for being its own series instead of a sjw corruption of something which they didn't concieve in their ill brains. 

      But that is not the reason nobody is commeting on the topic is just not interesting enough with all that happened througout the series and in the ending. I for one am glad that the deviated from the fairy tales and myths and did their own original thing in stead. 

      Fistly. How dare you insult Steven Universe! Its feminist and pro LBGT but that's partly what makes it awsome (and I'm a cisgender hetrosexual male). That and it's story telling, likable characters with cool powers. I don't mind you not liking the show, but please don't insult it.

      Also I agree it was good that Grimm did there own thing, it's just that I thought no one seemed to notice except me.

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    • Firstly there is no such thing as cisgender and kids tv shows should not push ideology and religion. 

      secondly undoubtedly some did not notice. 

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    • From the Oxford English Dictionary, "cisgender":

      adj.  Designating a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds to his or her sex at birth; of or relating to such persons. Contrasted with transgender.

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    • Getting words in regressive dictionaries is a small feat at best. Dictionaries (on their own) do not determine the officialness of language. 

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    • Thats a good point they said they were running out of ideas maybe thet just meant overarching plot. But yeah many of my favorite monster episodes were based on actual fables.

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    • Wow a new comment after one year of no comments.

      And yes, I agree with you. The fun thing about Grimm's earlier seasons was watching them then trying to guess what fairytale they were doing. And also finding out about new fairytales you didn't even know about before when you googled the answer.

      Another thing I liked to do was to come up with ideas for future episodes nad Wesen. Like, I'd think of a fairytale, then think about how to make it into a Grimm episode. Like, What kind of creature would [insert name of character] be? What powers would they have? Who do they interact with Grimms/other wesen? ect.

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    • S1 will always be my favourite season because the wesen cases were a clever retelling of the old fairy tales. I miss that the most about this show. 

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    • The red riding hood, 3 bears, krampus and 3 pigs episodes were some of my favorite cases but i also appreciated eposodes where nick went up against difficult vesens with weird crime scenes.

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    • I liked how the Royals turned out to be the bad guys in the story and didn't like how that was done away with in S5 and S6.

      I would have liked to see the whole Black Claw plot to be about wesen coming out of the shadows as opposed to a terrorist like group bent of world domination. Weirdly enough, Zerstörer turned out to to be a the big bad demon/wesen who wanted to recreate his hell (exposed wesen) on earth  and rule over everyone like in his mirror world. It would have been nice to link the BC plot to Zerstörer after they got rid of the Royals, especially with Bonaparte and his need to have Diana in their control. They could have made him a sort of cultist heralding Zerstörer and they could have linked it to the Queen Bee's warning to Nick in 1x03 and Adalind's contract over Diana and her getting her powers back. We did see a skull (Zerstörer?) on her tummmy when she rubbed that goo Stefania gave her. It could explain Diana's über powers and why Kelly was bent on raising Diana herself etc.

      So many missed opportunities...

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    • Well the whole black claw thing was making vvesens comfortable coming out and trying to cease political power so they could completely dominate humans.

      I agree I think the skull mark from the ritual is what connected zeroster to Diana. I wonder if anyone can go through the ritual even when they didn't lose their power i really want Kelly to be the next zeroster so badly. And it would of been cool if black claws goal was to summon zeroster and maybe the writers wanted that but instead chose to rush to the ending.

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    • No, not sweet baby Kelly. Zerstörer was evil, a killer and a potential peadophile. 

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    • Zeroster was an evil scumbag but doesn't necessarily mean Kelly would turn out like that if he had his abilities. It's like when juliette became a hexenbiest Henrietta told nick she could control it or when Monroe learned to control his vvesen urges. And I just like it like that just because it would be interesting plot for Nick to deal with and make Kelly more interesting.

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    • It's still a no from me. Z was written as evil personified, I would never want anyone to meet that fate.

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    • We'll I would like Kelly to be more than a Grimm and half zauberbiest but it might not be for the best Diana is pretty OP as it is and Nick has the staff the writers really need to limit their powers if the adventures continue.

      I also think it would be interesting for Nick to deal with the drama of him being corrupted. I would be cool with if Kelly got a zeroster form that gave him super strength and hexenbiest telepathy but he can't control it and he doesn't have power over when he vvoges. That's the ideal Kelly I personally want to see.

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    • LapisLazuliisthebest
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    • Okay this is getting kinda off-topic. This discussion is about fairytales not if Kelly is going to be a Zeroster or Zauberbiest or whatever. Please forget it or go to a different discussion.

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    • Well getting back on topic some of my favotite fairy tskrs i wish thr series would of done was alice in wonderland and peter pan inspired episodes. Maybe even an aladdin and hercules inspired episode aswell.

      Im a bit disappointed they decided fairys cant exist in the grimm universe. But slightly going back to the original topic we were discussing if grimm did make the come back they might up the power scaling of beings they go up against if a vvesen satan exists then their might be other super vvesen beings out there in the multiverse grimm could turn into a multiverse traveling story.

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    • I seem to remember one of Diana's belongings in her HW foster home was Grimm fairytales so I don't understand this whole "fairytales don't exist in grimm"

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    • No not fairy tales fairys Diana says in the finale fairys don't exist

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    • Fairy's (according to Diana) don't exist but that doesn't mean there aren't any fairy-like wesen out there. In "Plumed Serpent" Monroe said dragons are mythical but Damonfeuer are real but are the mythological basis of dragons.

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    • Reaperangel7 wrote:
      No not fairy tales fairys Diana says in the finale fairys don't exist

      Ah, should have read that instead of skimming.

      I think Diana's response is probable the writers' tongue in cheek way of showing Diana is no different from actual kids who "know it all" because they have stopped believing in people like Santa and the Easter Bunny etc so they can come across as grown up. In this universe I find it impossible that fairies don't actually exist. There must be a wesen equivalent of one since this show was based on fairytales. Had they continued with this original premise, I'm sure we would have seen one.

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    • I think your both right like lapis said dragons said not to exist but dragon like vvesens exist. I would think it's cool if the vvesen equivalent to fairies were magical beings like hexenbiest.

      Also it would of been nice if the series pulled on more cultural mythologies. There's many cultural more the series could of pulled from.

      Also it's disappointing we didn't get a vampire vvesen I know we got a bat vvesen but a legit vampire vvesen would of been nice too. Maybe since hanks the last normie of the group maybe make him a vampire monster like wu was made a werewolf monster. As of now hanks the biggest liability of the team like they used him to beat hw.

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    • A Vampire wesen would be great (As long as it doesn't sparkle).

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    • There was a Peter Pan Episode In Grimm.

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    • Really which one?

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    • 5x03 Lost Boys

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    • A Grimmster
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